Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/14 16:38Yeah, we finally managed to nail down the updated tournament rules. If you have any comments or questions, ass kissing or indignation, please post here.
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schubi
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/15 07:57nice! i like community-driven very much what exactly is the "Player Alliance"?
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Onyx Verde
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/15 08:55Nice job fellas, i really like the more simplified draft rules.
One quick question though: How does the points scoring system for Swiss Pairing account for matches that end in a draw? Do both players get a point? Or no points? ============================ "There is always Hope...." - Elessar Telcontar ============================
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/15 09:28A legal deck consists of 1 starbase (of the same race) Ok, fair enough. How ever I can't help but wounder how one would go about trying to break that rule. I find it very hard to have 1 starbase of a different race then it self... If there where 2 starbases it would be a differnt story ofcours
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blackgandalf
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/15 11:31bring the time limit for a match to 60 mn is a very good idea.
but i've got one question : in limited formats, can we play many races in the same deck ?
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DTee
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/15 14:31I'm glad you got rid of the scoring system for timed matches and introduced draws instead. It descourages some decks.
The simplified draft rules are a big plus too.
One area for potential improvement is the use of Sum Of Opponent's Scores as a tiebreak. I've seen this wrecks players because one of their opponents got disqualified* or dropped**, so I prefer the Sum of Opponent's (Wins - Loses) system.
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* A friend lost to someone who got disqualified for cheating the round after. The fact that player didn't win any further games wrecked his tiebrakes and cost him a top 8 spot in a $10,000 tournament (which was won by a team-mate playing the same deck).
** French LotR players with bad starts used to drop to wreck the tiebrakes of the players who beat them. This improved the chances of their team-mates.
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/15 18:40DTee wrote: ** French LotR players with bad starts used to drop to wreck the tiebrakes of the players who beat them. This improved the chances of their team-mates.<br><br>Post edited by: DTee, at: 2007/02/15 14:46
Exactly what I was objecting to in a different thread regarding setting up official Alliances (teams). Mind you, it wasn't just the French though they started it.. Team Bad Player used to do that as well (in Legend of the Five Rings), and I think some of them are on the design team nowadays.
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2007/02/21 10:43Onyx Verde wrote: How does the points scoring system for Swiss Pairing account for matches that end in a draw? Do both players get a point? Or no points? Changed point system to 3 for win, 1 for draw and 0 for loss. This was the plan all along, but was missing from that version of the tourney rules.
Smugger wrote: A legal deck consists of 1 starbase (of the same race) I blame the proofreader. Fixed.
DTee wrote: One area for potential improvement is the use of Sum Of Opponent's Scores as a tiebreak. I've seen this wrecks players because one of their opponents got disqualified* or dropped**, so I prefer the Sum of Opponent's (Wins - Loses) system. Agreed. Fixed.
I updated the updated rules... Hopefully that's it, but if you have any more issues with them, please bring them to my attention as soon as possible so the issues can be addressed before the GenCon qualifiers start.Tallest Content Manager and Super Administrator (SUPER Administrator!!!) EVE: The Second Genesis
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2008/01/06 22:30EVE TSG community in my native town totals a four persons (including me). So, what is a number of rounds for 4 persons' tournament? Default, I think, like tournaments can't be sanctioned. But I hope... What is a minimum of tournament's participants?
And second question... Can a judge take part in the tournament, that he judges? Tourney rules nothing say about this. If answer is negative, I will lose sleep.
P.S. Retire to think, whom's can I bluff to judge... in a good sense. Say what you think. Think what you say.
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2008/01/07 10:42With 4 people a round robin (ie. everyone plays everyone else)is the best format. In theory you would need 2 other people being judges but with such a small number it's probaly easier to ask if everyone is happy with just one person being a judge.We shall seed the stars with our scions and reap that harvest.
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2008/01/07 15:17Bulgakov wrote: EVE TSG community in my native town totals a four persons (including me). So, what is a number of rounds for 4 persons' tournament? Default, I think, like tournaments can't be sanctioned. But I hope... What is a minimum of tournament's participants?
And second question... Can a judge take part in the tournament, that he judges? Tourney rules nothing say about this. If answer is negative, I will lose sleep.
P.S. Retire to think, whom's can I bluff to judge... in a good sense.
The current minimum number of players for a sanctioned tournament are 8, but we are currently considering lowering that number to 5.
Organizers are welcome to play in their own tournaments, but they must arrange for a number of judges equal to the number of players in a match +1 (i.e. 3 judges would be necessary for standard head-to-head play, 5 for a 2v2 event, etc.). You can read more about this requirement under the multi-judge rules.Zack Walters EVE: The Second Genesis Organized Play Coordinator White Wolf | CCP North America
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P.S. We're need fifth player. We've got him!Say what you think. Think what you say.
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2008/09/26 12:27stevetheone With 4 people a round robin (ie. everyone plays everyone else)is the best format. In theory you would need 2 other people being judges but with such a small number it's probaly easier to ask if everyone is happy with just one person being a judge.
This format is the best if you don't have any prizes in the pool. Once we played using format (not in EVE) and had a situation like (P1>P2 means 'P1 wins match against P2'): P1>P4,P1>P2,P1<P3. P2<P1,P2>P3,P2>P4 P3>P1,P3<P2,P3>P4 Briefly, Player 1, Player 2 and Player 3 won two games and lost one. Player 4 lost all games. At the end 3 first player were completely tied and not to start next 3 games (and it was possible to get the same situation) we rolled a dice. Don't you think that this situation is possible while playing EVE-CCG?
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Re:Tournament Rules Updated - 2008/09/26 15:11LOLs... not any more DimaCh, since the whole tourney scene has effectively died off ============================ "There is always Hope...." - Elessar Telcontar ============================
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