Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 14:56Quafe Factory: "You can only play Quafe Factory in a friendly region."
Question: I assume "friendly" means a region you control?
Field Supply Router: "At the beginning of each opponents' turn, you may choose an outer region. If you do, friendly ships get +1 attack and +1 shield until end of turn."
Question: Would an equivalent wording of this card be "If there is an outer region in play, friendly ships get +1 attack and +1 shield during your opponent's turn"? I think something on the wording of this one got left out, because the wording doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense...
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Karash
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 15:21"Friendly" is indeed a region you control if you are playing heads up, or in alliance play any region your alliance controls.
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 15:25Q:Quafe Factory: "You can only play Quafe Factory in a friendly region."
A: Friendly region is one you control.
I think Field Supply Router wording works fine.Blatherskite Caldari Propagandist
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 17:49I know the wording on the Router WORKS, it's just a very strange way of phrasing it if there wasn't supposed to be a limitation to it. As it is, it's a +1/+1 to all ships as long as there's an outer region in play at all... Given the wording, I can't help but wonder if it was supposed to only apply to ships in the selected region.
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RedX
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 17:55See the lack of a period there? Half of the last sentence is apparently missing.
I checked at GenCon- yes, it gives friendly ships, in that (friendly or non-friendly, I notice) outer region only, +1/+1.
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Karash
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 20:18Just to reiterate though, in alliance play, friendly means alliance controlled space...not just what you control.
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Buhallin
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 20:33RedX wrote: See the lack of a period there? Half of the last sentence is apparently missing.
I checked at GenCon- yes, it gives friendly ships, in that (friendly or non-friendly, I notice) outer region only, +1/+1. I expected as much.
<cynicism>Anyone want to start a pool on when they'll post the errata?</cynisim>
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Blatherskite
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 20:41Buhallin wrote: I know the wording on the Router WORKS, it's just a very strange way of phrasing it if there wasn't supposed to be a limitation to it. As it is, it's a +1/+1 to all ships as long as there's an outer region in play at all... Given the wording, I can't help but wonder if it was supposed to only apply to ships in the selected region.
So if the wording WORKS...what's the problem? I guess I'm not reading it the same as you, but then again I'm not trying to find fault with it.Blatherskite Caldari Propagandist
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Buhallin
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/29 21:49What RedX says it's supposed to do: Gives +1/+1 to each ship in the region you select.
What it does as worded: Gives +1/+1 to ALL your ships, no matter where they are.
The thing that made me wonder about it was why you had to pick an outer region, when that selection did nothing for the rest of the card ability.
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Blatherskite
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/30 00:23I think we're back to intention vs. wording. Another card slips through the cracks. I'm sure that will be fixed as I believe it should only pertain to the outer region that's targeted.Blatherskite Caldari Propagandist
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/30 04:25RedX wrote: See the lack of a period there? Half of the last sentence is apparently missing.
I checked at GenCon- yes, it gives friendly ships, in that (friendly or non-friendly, I notice) outer region only, +1/+1.
Confirmed, this will be errata per the lead designer. Something cut off the last line when it was being transferred from the working format to the for-printing format.-Ryuteki, Owner of the Rules! We're playing Monday evenings in IL, see www.games-plus.com for the address or email me at ryuteki AT gmail DOT com.
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Buhallin
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/30 16:49Next question: Blackmail says "duration is halted" - what does that mean? Is the Duration stopped permanently, or does it just not rotate during the next step?
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/30 21:03You know what it means.Blatherskite Caldari Propagandist
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Buhallin
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/30 22:38<shrug> No, I really don't. "Halt" means to stop, at least in simple English. It's undefined as a game term. There are three possible interpretations:
1. You skip the next rotation 2. The card stops duration rotation forever, after it rotates the next time. 3. The card stops duration rotation forever, before it rotates the next time.
It seems strange that your opponent can spend 1 ISK to completely stop a card that costs you 4 to play, but that's what I'd take away from the word "halt". On the other hand, maybe it's kinda like Moon Harvester, where it gets more interesting during multi-player games.
It's also a bit fuzzy because Endless Re-Runs uses the term "stall", which would imply that "halt" is different, and hence permanent.
If you think I know what it means, then you must know what it means. Please, share... Reasoning would be good too, but I'm well past expecting that around here.
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Re:Few Exiled Questions - 2007/08/31 00:27We had six people over at my house playing the other night, two were using that card, and not one person at the table thought or eluded that paying 1 isk would stop that card from ever rotating again. Honestly...what would be the point in "halting it forever", when the card doesn't say halt it forever. In fact the card says:
Your opponents may pay you 1 isk: Blackmail's duration is halted during your NEXT duration step.
It doesn't say all of your next durations for the rest of the game. But then you could say that its wording could be taken either way...and maybe your right, but in my play group we play with common sense.
And I have been nothing but reasonable.Blatherskite Caldari Propagandist
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