2 noobie questions - 2006/11/12 19:15* If you have 2 ships in a region that are set to patrol, can your opponent ships deal damage at all? Patrol states that enemy ships must target that ship. But if there are 2 ships that your enemy must target, can just 1 be chosen?
* If you warp into a region that is either uncontrolled or under your control, can your ship activate a command that same turn?
thnx, Christoph
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cravenus
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/12 19:491 if 2 ships are patrolling and he comes in with 1 ship, you basically force him to target 1 ship
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bedog
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/12 20:56Christoph wrote: * If you warp into a region that is either uncontrolled or under your control, can your ship activate a command that same turn?
Don't think so, since warping into a region is considered an "attack", which means that you've used that ship already that turn...
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Civi
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/12 23:32Christoph wrote: * If you have 2 ships in a region that are set to patrol, can your opponent ships deal damage at all? Patrol states that enemy ships must target that ship. But if there are 2 ships that your enemy must target, can just 1 be chosen?
* If you warp into a region that is either uncontrolled or under your control, can your ship activate a command that same turn?
thnx, Christoph
1- The opponent must satisfy the Patrol ability as best as he can if he can not fully satisfy it.
Example 1: Two Rifters attack three Patrolling Punishers (Patrol 1). One ship must attack each, but as he only has two ships, they must attack two seperate targets leaving him unable of attacking the third ship.
Example 2: A Rifter and two Slashers attack two Patrolling Punishers (Patrol 1). One ship MUST attack each Punisher, so one Rifter Attacks one, one of the Slashers attacks the other and the second Slasher may attack any target of its choice as the Patrol has been satisfied.
2. Yes, ships may perform any number of actions and commands until they warp into an enemy controlled region, at which point they stop everyhting and wait for the battle phase.
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bedog
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/13 06:46Civi wrote: 2. Yes, ships may perform any number of actions and commands until they warp into an enemy controlled region, at which point they stop everyhting and wait for the battle phase.
Isn't warping into an uncontrolled region also an attack?
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Civi
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/13 07:00No, only when moving into an enemy controlled region is it considered an attack. You simply just get control of the region when it is uncontrolled and continue your management phase.
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/13 21:21Civi wrote: 1- The opponent must satisfy the Patrol ability as best as he can if he can not fully satisfy it.
Example 1: Two Rifters attack three Patrolling Punishers (Patrol 1). One ship must attack each, but as he only has two ships, they must attack two seperate targets leaving him unable of attacking the third ship.
Example 2: A Rifter and two Slashers attack two Patrolling Punishers (Patrol 1). One ship MUST attack each Punisher, so one Rifter Attacks one, one of the Slashers attacks the other and the second Slasher may attack any target of its choice as the Patrol has been satisfied. But remember that the defender chooses the ships that are forced to target the patrollers. Especially in the case of the Punisher, the patrol command can really screw with an attack.
2. Yes, ships may perform any number of actions and commands until they warp into an enemy controlled region, at which point they stop everyhting and wait for the battle phase. Totally correct.Zack Walters EVE: The Second Genesis Organized Play Coordinator White Wolf | CCP North America
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/13 21:58Civi wrote: Example 2: A Rifter and two Slashers attack two Patrolling Punishers (Patrol 1). One ship MUST attack each Punisher, so one Rifter Attacks one, one of the Slashers attacks the other and the second Slasher may attack any target of its choice as the Patrol has been satisfied.
in this example things are compounded by the Punisher's other ability of only being able to be targeted by one ship, so the underlined above is wrong in this case... but it would work like that for any other Patrol-1 ship... Punishers rool
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/13 22:07The defender chooses which ships target the patrolling ships. So hence, you can save a lot of your ships if you have muchos patrol, by making sure each enemy ship targets a ship it cant kill.
To be honest though, I know nothing about patrol, so I might be wrong....ask Zack
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Civi
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/13 23:05AgentZero wrote: Civi wrote: 1- The opponent must satisfy the Patrol ability as best as he can if he can not fully satisfy it.
Example 1: Two Rifters attack three Patrolling Punishers (Patrol 1). One ship must attack each, but as he only has two ships, they must attack two seperate targets leaving him unable of attacking the third ship.
Example 2: A Rifter and two Slashers attack two Patrolling Punishers (Patrol 1). One ship MUST attack each Punisher, so one Rifter Attacks one, one of the Slashers attacks the other and the second Slasher may attack any target of its choice as the Patrol has been satisfied. But remember that the defender chooses the ships that are forced to target the patrollers. Especially in the case of the Punisher, the patrol command can really screw with an attack.
2. Yes, ships may perform any number of actions and commands until they warp into an enemy controlled region, at which point they stop everyhting and wait for the battle phase. Totally correct.
ARGH! My rules poworz have been pwn3d! Blast you! *shakes fist*
In English: I stand corrected, bad example
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Malthros
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Re:2 noobie questions - 2006/11/14 00:28bedog wrote: Isn't warping into an uncontrolled region also an attack?
No, it's not.
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